The Hermetica by Timothy Freke
I just read on an introductory post about the Gospel of Hermes, haven't read it but I will thanks to the recommendation.
But it remember me to an early book I read before the CH and is The Hermetica by Timothy Freke, here is the audiobook on YouTube:
Although I know it's not a schoolar work, what would be your opinion as an introductory text?
Thank to it I was able to find the Kore Kosmu as I read the Gods giving powers to the human soul and I never read something like that on Brian's Hermética, that's when I bought Hermética II by David Litwa.
I know that the Egyptian theme might confuse the source, but I would like to read your opinions on that. Thankyou
Freke/Gandy's book isn't a translation of the Hermetic texts. Rather, it's their own sort of romanticized remix of Hermetic texts in their own way (with far more overt Egyptianization than the Egyptian stuff we see in the Hermetic texts).
While it can be a nice intro read to get a feel for the overall sense or aesthetics of Hermeticism, it's not a translation.
The KK is a fascinating text, but how "Hermetic" it is is really up for debate. Hanegraaff, for instance, in his latest book doesn't really include it as part of his reckoning of the Hermetica, because it's so dramatically different in its conception of God and divinity, as well as who does what in it, that it's really difficult to reconcile.
It's a great example of Greco-Egyptian spiritual literature, to be sure, and might be better considered as "Isiaca" instead of "Hermetica". However, because of the role of a Hermēs in it and its inclusion by Stobaeus in his Anthology, it has since been generally reckoned as part of the Hermetic corpora.
Much of KK clashes in some really essential ways with the outlook and direction of the Hermetic texts. For example, nowhere in the Hermetic texts does God take an anthropomorphized form, much less one that threatens to punish its creations, and much less than that actually exact it.
Or, nowhere else in the Hermetica do we have a notion of a divine Hermēs (specifically the planet) being the fashioner of human bodies, and only (once) in D89 (and that in an ecstatic state) do we see an explicit identification of our Hermēs Trismegistos with the actual planet, while KK seems to only talk about Hermēs as a planetary deity.
Maybe we should consider the KK as hermetic fanfiction 😀
Yes I see, so maybe the KK could be a Freke version of that time, and as a "fanfiction" does it have any value? Or isn't just a fascinating story? Would you say that it gives something more than a fascination about a stories of creation?
All this delivers another question, if a text is a romantiside version, even if there is a artistic contemporary expression that express in some way Hermetic principles, does it have any value to The Way Of Hermes? Or is it imperative to stick with the "approved" sources of knowledge?
I don't know if you follow my inquire.
The concrete matter that has been going around my studies is how do you draw a line between what is "right" to be contemplative about (on this case the romanticized Hermetica we are regarding on this post) and what could be considered deluded and crazy new age mumbo jumbo without historic appreciation?
Maybe a good start is the 16 Principles as summarized by David Litwa in his presentation:
Hermeticism is not a free-for-all where you can bring in your own views. It is a tradition with a certain view on creation, God, the gods, mankind, and what it is that makes us human and brings us salvation.
You can recognize "deluded and crazy new age mumbo jumbo" if it does not align with the authentic hermetic texts (for example the popular book The Kybalion). Hermetica by Freke is not "deluded and crazy new age mumbo jumbo" as it is a nice introduction to Hermeticism, but it can never be an alternative to the real hermetic texts.
Thank you, very clear as to what Hermética principles are. Although I did a course on the Kybalion I did recognize that it was not at all Hermetism, and that happened after I read the Hermética.
As for other kind of Non Dual thought? I know that the cosmology is not the same and I might be here looking for Perennial philosophy or the Prisca Theologia... I have listen to the Advaita Vedanta, or even to Mahamudra theology or Sufi and it's very close to the essence, maybe the forms (gods, heaven and earth) change but I feel really inclined to cross all over.
This obviously drops out of the Way of Hermes as it is, but for me is the way of the Human to find true Humanity (Logos).